Monday, February 18, 2008

Funny, but oh-so-true quotes

from Men May Come and Men May Go but I've Still Got My Little Pink Raincoat: Life and Love In and Out of My Wardrobe by Gigi Anders.

But I still love him. The eternal feminine position. Are we all masochists? Do we give men way more credit than they deserve? Should we reserve our credit strictly for plastic purchases?
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Who knows why men stay with us? I have no idea. I guess it’s because they love us, preferably naked, therefore canceling our entire shopping therapy core belief system.
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The first quote struck me because it is so true. So many girls let guys do whatever they want because they think they still love them, and that their positive qualities outweigh their flaws, even if their flaws are abuse. And on a less extreme level, everything guys do can piss off their girlfriends or whatnot, but they still stick around. At some point, this becomes a bad thing. If a guy sucks, it doesn't matter how awesome their eyes are or how well they kiss or how many flowers they give you. There comes a point when it is time to let go.

But, at the same time, you can't leave a guy just for a single flaw, or even a couple negative things. Nobody is perfect, and there's no way you'll ever find a guy you don't have a single problem with.

The second quote is funny too, but it's more silly. Who do girls dress to impress? My parents always think that when I dress up (or just get dressed; I don't often dress down) that I am doing it to impress a boy. Which I don't believe is true. Girls are competitive and dressing up is as much impressing girls as it is impressing guys. In this book (which so far is hilarious), she relates one item of clothing, makeup or accessory to a specific guy, who I think is supposed to fall for her as soon as he sees it on her. I don't believe guys are this shallow.

This quote also relates back to what we've talked about before, I think. Why do guys stay with us if they are supposed to be independent strong men? Of course, we've answered this question. They are not actually independent and strong all the time, maybe they need action (haha), they go weak when they meet someone special. Or if they are independent and strong they want to protect a lady, save a damsel in distress.

From The Today Show

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Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Valentine's Day!

Okay I have to admit, I love Valentine's Day. I know there are a lot of people out there who think it's really dumb and really pointless and a waste of time and money and pinkness, but I love it. I can see how you would think it's dumb and all that, and yeah it is stupid to devote only one day to showing someone you care, but it's an awesome excuse to get roses and eat chocolate and bake cupcakes and wear pink and sparkley stuff and buy Hello Kitty Valentines!

For some reason, they force us to give Valentine's to everyone in your class in elementary school, which sucks for the parents who have to go out to buy useless pieces of paper, but it's awesome for us kids who get to eat and party and see if our crushes signed the valentine with "xoxo" (...I hope someone else did that, and not just me...). And then in middle school there's the rose sale. I don't think many people actually receive roses, though I did get one in 7th grade. In 9th grade, I dumped Duncan the day before Valentine's Day (I know, harsh), so I never got anything (I believe he ate the chocolate himself, haha, right Duncan?). Those are my two experiences with Valentine's Day so far.

Wow, I'm not making my point at all.

Okay so basically I'm really horrible when it comes to Valentine's Day. I have no idea whether or not the girl is supposed to get the guy anything, but I expect guys to get a teddy bear, a dozen roses, chocolate and a cute date. Except not really, because I probably wouldn't want that myself, but that's the cliché, right? I just expect the guy to do more than the girl does. Which I don't agree with on principle, but it's still what I expect. I mean, Valentine's Day is intended for the girl. Really, what is a guy going to do with teddy bears and roses?

But why is Valentine's Day the day to show your love? What about the other 364/5 days in the year? Of course you show your love every day of the year. It's sort of like Thanksgiving: that's not the only day to be grateful, but yet we pick one day for it each year. (Though I know there's all that pilgrim and indian stuff too, but we'll forget about that for the sake of this argument.) I'm sure there's a historic reason for Valentine's Day; it is called St. Valentine's Day, after all, right? I don't know: wiki it. We always have holidays to celebrate, because regular days are just too boring. Why not have fun with Valentine's Day and do something cute with who you love? Don't sit there and be all cynical about romance. It's your one day to be all mushygushy.

But what about all those single people out there? I guess you have good reason to hate Valentine's Day. But really, think about all those other single people. They need Valentines too; go pick up some hot guys! But this is a day about people you love, and you have friends whom you love, if not any significant others. So just bask in the happiness and feel the love <3

And guys, you don't have to spend a lot of money on girls. Just show her you care, it's not that hard. A lot of girls don't feel comfortable accepting huge gifts. Then again, some girls would hate it if you didn't get her something big. I think what works is figuring out how big your sig-other is going to go; unequal value of gifts is only going to make both people feel bad.

So go out and have an awesome Valentine's Day! Wear pink, eat cookies and hug people.

Valentines? More like shmalentines.

All silliness aside, Valentine’s Day is approaching and with it comes the dreaded gift giving exercise practiced by many couples, and hopeful couples come February 14th. But, what really is the use of Valentine’s Day? In a lot of guy’s minds this day is a day that they have to waste a bunch of money on their girlfriend, or potential date/love interest/whatever. And no guy likes doing that. But what is the true meaning of Valentine’s Day (VD)? Is it actually just to provide physical reminders of one’s love for another, or does it actually serve a purpose other than to stoke one’s ego and serve as a popularity contest.

So, what do I think of VD? I wouldn’t really know actually. This year is the first year that I’ll actually have a girlfriend on VD, but from past experience in general VD extravaganzas I know that I’m not really that big a fan of it. Sure, I appreciate the chocolate and all the other types of candy and stuff, I don’t necessarily like the holiday itself. I’m not big on the pink hearts and other such things which permeate the holiday.

I don’t really know what to say about VD other than this. I’m not sure what April’s expecting really, she did come up with the idea for this post. I guess I’m not in much of a blogy mood. Maybe I’ll make this better, or add some more or something or write another post after April posts.

Tuesday, February 5, 2008

Sara Koste and I, discussing love

So, yeah, I know, that April should be posting the things from the girls but I was talking to Sara tonight and it came up, so here it is with some minor editing and fixes.

what is she bear
(8:41:19 PM):
and I'd question your idea of love. but whatever, I just blogged about that
micaspangled (8:41:52 PM): oh really? you'd question it?
what is she bear (8:42:41 PM): well, I'd question what you mean by love.
micaspangled (8:43:11 PM): well maybe you would
micaspangled (8:43:23 PM): fine then, duncan. tell me how i don't love him
what is she bear (8:45:45 PM): I'm not saying that you don't like him a lot. that you don't like being around and that you don't enjoy his company and all those things. But what I'd call into question is what you mean by love? Because, can you actually love someone that you'd dated for what? two weeks or something? Can you really get to know someone on an emotional and physical level that is required for a loving bond, or connection or something like that to form?
micaspangled (8:46:13 PM): yes
what is she bear (8:46:52 PM): alright then.
what is she bear (8:47:10 PM): then ask him to prom right now. because if you love him, I have no idea what you're waiting for.
micaspangled (8:47:26 PM): duncan, do u have any idea how fickle i am?
what is she bear (8:48:02 PM): yes, I do. but if that means that you love him right now and today but you won't tomorrow then that breaks the criterion for love
micaspangled (8:48:40 PM): i think that u have a judgmental view of love
micaspangled (8:48:47 PM): i think that it is something that is always there
micaspangled (8:49:20 PM): ever since i have "been in love with" him, i have had a little like, un-reality check every time i see him, no matter what
micaspangled (8:49:44 PM): i am a willful person duncan, if i believe that i should not love him, i will do everything i can to try and make myself fall out of love with him
what is she bear (8:50:35 PM): what do you mean un-reality check?
micaspangled (8:51:10 PM): like an out-of-body experience, like instead of a reality check, it's like a millisecond fantasy of what it could be
what is she bear (8:51:28 PM): I see. alright.

micaspangled (8:57:27 PM): well then, what are your perspectives on love? not to pursue the topic, but it's an interesting one that people usually avoid
what is she bear (9:02:40 PM): perspectives on love? If you mean, do I think the term overly romantic or something? Well no, because I believe that love happens, and I experience love myself. But, in a nutshell, I think that romantic love can not really (or at least very easily) be formed in a high school setting. I don't know why I don't see love as being something that can happen in high school, but I just don't think that two people in high school know each other well enough, or long enough to love each other. but, I contradict myself of course. I love my parents and I've only known them for 17 years. I love my friends, april for instance, I love april like a sister and we've only been friends since seventh grade. but those things are different than romantic love. I don't think that romantic love can be easily explained or experienced on the same level as friendship love which I see as something which can develop more quickly but grow incredibly strong where as romantic love has to start with a strong connection and then become love. or something like that.
micaspangled (9:05:56 PM): yes. well, i sort of agree with you. i suppose i don't know if i can experience romantic love right now. i think that it's not impossible to find true love in high school. a good example? my parents! they were high school sweethearts, and they are still together. i mean, i don't know the intricacies of their relationship, but it's pretty good proof for me. i also agree with you. see, the thing is that i think friendship love and romantic love are not very different at all. i don't know enough about it yet, but i think that romantic love is an extension of friendship love, and perhaps has the attraction factor added in
what is she bear (9:09:01 PM): well, I think that romantic love is one of those weird things that can fall into a couple of categories. while sure it can be similar to friendship at times, it also has to be a deeper connection than any friendship. then there has to be the attractive piece, but that plays into another aspect of love which is the desire and such part of love. so, I don't know, I think it's one of those things that is way too complicated for most people to experience at this early a point in life, but then again, I've been wrong before.
micaspangled (9:13:13 PM): yea, i think you're right. like, i didn't word it correctly. i don't know about you, but with me, it's all about the personality. like, 95%. i mean, i probably wouldn't want a short, fat, bald, acne-covered 45-year old man, but i mean, that being an extreme, physical attractiveness is really completely irrelevant. it's an attractiveness of character. like, someone can pretty easily make me fall in love with them.. all it takes is for them to do something, even the tiniest thing, that shows me that they care about me. this is probably a result of the constant teasing and berating i receive.
micaspangled (9:13:23 PM): but
micaspangled (9:13:45 PM): the thing that they do that will make me fall in love with them is not a set thing
micaspangled (9:14:15 PM): like, even when this guy made out with me, that didn't make me fall in love with him at all. it showed he liked me, but it didn't show that he cared about me.
micaspangled (9:16:51 PM): i care about a lot of people, like extremely. it's that sort of friendship love you talk about, but i practically abuse it. when i say care, i mean like, understanding. if you understand a person, u can usually pretty much predict how they feel or what they want when they are in a mood. i'm like that with dom, lauren, my brothers,. with some people it's really not hard to figure them out, they're kind of transparent. but that's not a bad thing!! it just makes it easier for me. i'll still care about someone, even if they're transparent. because if their transparency shows beauty, all the better
micaspangled (9:17:31 PM): this all has to do with love
micaspangled (9:17:34 PM): i think
what is she bear (9:17:55 PM): so, you're saying for you to love someone they have to be nontransparent though? you have to care about them, but not be able to figure them out?
micaspangled (9:18:20 PM): oh no i'm not saying that at all.
micaspangled (9:18:29 PM): i'm just trying to explain to you how i view people
micaspangled (9:18:52 PM): transparency or not is not a qualification, it is just a way that i explain how i can completely understand some people and not others
what is she bear (9:19:06 PM): ok
what is she bear (9:19:12 PM): well, what about that guy?
micaspangled (9:19:25 PM): well, i understand him most of the time
micaspangled (9:19:55 PM): like, when he's in a good mood, if he wants to talk about serious stuff, if he just wants to be silly
micaspangled (9:20:07 PM): but i don't always understand when or why or what to do when he's in a bad mood.
micaspangled (9:20:38 PM): i'm the kind of person who takes pleasure in pleasing other people, in wrapping myself around what makes other people happy, and so i need to know about these things
micaspangled (9:20:50 PM): that's why i love giving backrubs so much

what is she bear (9:24:06 PM): and on topic, well back to the love topic: someone posted this on my blog post "My dad always says, You know you love someone when your happy when they are happy, and when they are sad, you are sad." and that sounds a lot like you. But, I can see this kind of attitude not allowing any personal freedom. Because if you focus all your attention on someone else then there is none left for yourself and you trust yourself to be supported by the other person. which I guess could be the point.
micaspangled (9:24:33 PM): that's the thing with me
micaspangled (9:24:45 PM): it's not a cage, though.
micaspangled (9:25:18 PM): if you derive pleasure from other people's care for you and own happiness, it's really much easier to attain
micaspangled (9:25:28 PM): and it's not like i can't make my own happiness
micaspangled (9:25:39 PM): and it is about trust
micaspangled (9:26:04 PM): like, right now i believe that i trust him forever
micaspangled (9:26:09 PM): i like to be taken care of
what is she bear (9:27:37 PM): I guess that is where we somewhat differ, because while I feel that I can trust people pretty well, I guess if I can't place myself into the mold deriving pleasure from helping them totally then I'm not actually that trusting. I don't know.
what is she bear (9:28:06 PM): but see, sara, you also seem to like to take care of someone else, if you want to make them happy. though, I guess that goes both ways
micaspangled (9:28:49 PM): it does. it's such an old-fashioned woman's role, though. i sort of despise that, and still it's nice
what is she bear (9:29:27 PM): I guess it's just your personality
micaspangled (9:30:14 PM): ah, well. it's just because i'm sheltered. someday something horrible and earth-shattering will happen to me, and i'll either die or learn from it and turn into a hard-hearted old cronie